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		<title>By: MidNight FistFight: Exploring the World of Armenian Zhamos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MidNight FistFight: Exploring the World of Armenian Zhamos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] among Armenian Diasporan youth in the Los Angles area. In 2009, 19-year-old Mike Yepremyan was shot and killed during a similar meet up over a text message. Movses Karapetyan as Alec and David Lafian as Gev [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] among Armenian Diasporan youth in the Los Angles area. In 2009, 19-year-old Mike Yepremyan was shot and killed during a similar meet up over a text message. Movses Karapetyan as Alec and David Lafian as Gev [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ruben from Armenia</title>
		<link>http://www.ianyanmag.com/armenian-youth-and-violence-a-new-cycle-of-genocide/#comment-3263</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ruben from Armenia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ps no one is allowed to allow or not allow armenians to the US. America belongs to anyone who is able to go there and get established there. Todays Americans ancestors are the proof]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps no one is allowed to allow or not allow armenians to the US. America belongs to anyone who is able to go there and get established there. Todays Americans ancestors are the proof</p>
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		<title>By: Ruben from Armenia</title>
		<link>http://www.ianyanmag.com/armenian-youth-and-violence-a-new-cycle-of-genocide/#comment-3261</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ruben from Armenia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the reason, why we armenians from Armenia make a tragedy out of &quot;nothing&quot; and beat up the guy who calls our sister a bitch, is that so we dont have to make a tragedy out of a tragedy, and kill the guy who raped our sister or child, or robbed our mother. our violent behavior is the reason why  Armenia (where violence and criminality are so high) is one of the safest places for women, children and elderly. you rarely hear on tv about child abuse,rape insidents, beating up a woman and robbing her, unlike in america where everyone is either some kind of sexual maniac, but a good citizen,either a drug dealer( we call them barigs they are not respected amongst our gangsters) or a gangster in an american way, whom we call bespredzel, those are guys who beat up or kill someone without a justified reason. 
 well how many years does someone get in america for having raped a child? 5 maximum 10? this is the reason why we Armos dont worship the law, and find the need of making our own laws.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the reason, why we armenians from Armenia make a tragedy out of &#8220;nothing&#8221; and beat up the guy who calls our sister a bitch, is that so we dont have to make a tragedy out of a tragedy, and kill the guy who raped our sister or child, or robbed our mother. our violent behavior is the reason why  Armenia (where violence and criminality are so high) is one of the safest places for women, children and elderly. you rarely hear on tv about child abuse,rape insidents, beating up a woman and robbing her, unlike in america where everyone is either some kind of sexual maniac, but a good citizen,either a drug dealer( we call them barigs they are not respected amongst our gangsters) or a gangster in an american way, whom we call bespredzel, those are guys who beat up or kill someone without a justified reason.<br />
 well how many years does someone get in america for having raped a child? 5 maximum 10? this is the reason why we Armos dont worship the law, and find the need of making our own laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Decent American</title>
		<link>http://www.ianyanmag.com/armenian-youth-and-violence-a-new-cycle-of-genocide/#comment-2387</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Decent American]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 06:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When will the Armenian community stand up and tell Armenians that Insurance Fraud, public assistance and generally pissing off the very people (Americans) who rescued them from and grip of poverty in Armenia and welcomed them into our community is NOT acceptable? It seems that many people regret allowing the Armenians to come here and wish they would either join civilization or go back to their caves in Eastern Europe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will the Armenian community stand up and tell Armenians that Insurance Fraud, public assistance and generally pissing off the very people (Americans) who rescued them from and grip of poverty in Armenia and welcomed them into our community is NOT acceptable? It seems that many people regret allowing the Armenians to come here and wish they would either join civilization or go back to their caves in Eastern Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: knarik</title>
		<link>http://www.ianyanmag.com/armenian-youth-and-violence-a-new-cycle-of-genocide/#comment-2202</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[knarik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 07:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You portray Armenians from Armenia as homosapians.  The country had thousands of well know scientists, athelets, doctors and politicians.  These people are not living on trees. 
The biggest blame should be put the the armenian CHURCHES.  They did not give proper guidance to the people. Everything was tolerated and swept under the rug.  The church was supposed to teach the people the right way of life, since history has proven that governments are incompotent in doing that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You portray Armenians from Armenia as homosapians.  The country had thousands of well know scientists, athelets, doctors and politicians.  These people are not living on trees.<br />
The biggest blame should be put the the armenian CHURCHES.  They did not give proper guidance to the people. Everything was tolerated and swept under the rug.  The church was supposed to teach the people the right way of life, since history has proven that governments are incompotent in doing that.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.ianyanmag.com/armenian-youth-and-violence-a-new-cycle-of-genocide/#comment-2188</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[some of you people have a real penchant for ingaging in hysterics thing for the sole pupose of attracting eyes to your socalled articles. pathetic indeed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some of you people have a real penchant for ingaging in hysterics thing for the sole pupose of attracting eyes to your socalled articles. pathetic indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Liana Aghajanian</title>
		<link>http://www.ianyanmag.com/armenian-youth-and-violence-a-new-cycle-of-genocide/#comment-2179</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liana Aghajanian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I take it the only way an Armenian youth can &quot;positively contribute&quot; to the Armenian cause is to fight for Genocide recognition. This is where I disagree with you. I am tired of every spot on our priority list taken up by the genocide. This is the point I was trying to make. It&#039;s the genocide that unites us, it&#039;s the one thing we can all agree on, all other problems get thrown out the window. Poverty, violence, health, inter-cultural communication, progress. Nothing else matters.

Even with your comments, it becomes apparent that the only thing you were able to focus in on was my mention of putting genocide recognition aside for a bit to concentrate on other problems. 

I stand by every word I said, because I&#039;m tired. These are the problems that directly impact me and my community and yes, for me, this is what matters.  I don&#039;t know if you&#039;re from Los Angeles, but these are major concerns. These are major concerns when five or six Armenian murders occur within the span of 6 months. These are youths who grew up here, once removed from the former Soviet Republic and yet, they are falling in the same paths. I am not sure how else to communicate that. 

You say that you never expected to read such a comment in an Armenian related publication. Well this is the difference between this publication and others, and in fact, the entire reason why it exists. Alternative view points, different ways of looking at things, exploring topics that other Armenian publications don&#039;t line their pages with - those are my concerns. 

Also, I want to point out, that I never said we should give up anything.  What I am saying, and what I stand by, is that Armenian Genocide recognition should not occupy every single concern we have. 

I want to make it clear that the opinions I&#039;ve expressed here were in no way intended to demean the Armenian Genocide or to communicate that I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a concern. If you read the other articles on this site, both opinion pieces, feature stories and hard news, you&#039;ll see that that&#039;s not the case.

There is something we can agree on - Armenian Genocide recognition is a realistic goal. It will happen, and when it does, there will still be violence, poverty and domestic abuse in our communities. I&#039;d rather address those topics now, then wait for the genocide to be recognized so that we have something else to concern ourselves with. 

There&#039;s room for it all, I&#039;m just saying we need to balance our priorities a little bit.

Nevertheless, I respect your opinions, and am thankful that you chose to express them here. I welcome discussion  - that&#039;s what this is all about anyway. I do hope you find something in this humble publication to persuade you to comment again, whether or not it is positive or negative. And if you ever feel strongly enough to want to write something, I would be more than happy to give you the space here to publish it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it the only way an Armenian youth can &#8220;positively contribute&#8221; to the Armenian cause is to fight for Genocide recognition. This is where I disagree with you. I am tired of every spot on our priority list taken up by the genocide. This is the point I was trying to make. It&#8217;s the genocide that unites us, it&#8217;s the one thing we can all agree on, all other problems get thrown out the window. Poverty, violence, health, inter-cultural communication, progress. Nothing else matters.</p>
<p>Even with your comments, it becomes apparent that the only thing you were able to focus in on was my mention of putting genocide recognition aside for a bit to concentrate on other problems. </p>
<p>I stand by every word I said, because I&#8217;m tired. These are the problems that directly impact me and my community and yes, for me, this is what matters.  I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re from Los Angeles, but these are major concerns. These are major concerns when five or six Armenian murders occur within the span of 6 months. These are youths who grew up here, once removed from the former Soviet Republic and yet, they are falling in the same paths. I am not sure how else to communicate that. </p>
<p>You say that you never expected to read such a comment in an Armenian related publication. Well this is the difference between this publication and others, and in fact, the entire reason why it exists. Alternative view points, different ways of looking at things, exploring topics that other Armenian publications don&#8217;t line their pages with &#8211; those are my concerns. </p>
<p>Also, I want to point out, that I never said we should give up anything.  What I am saying, and what I stand by, is that Armenian Genocide recognition should not occupy every single concern we have. </p>
<p>I want to make it clear that the opinions I&#8217;ve expressed here were in no way intended to demean the Armenian Genocide or to communicate that I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a concern. If you read the other articles on this site, both opinion pieces, feature stories and hard news, you&#8217;ll see that that&#8217;s not the case.</p>
<p>There is something we can agree on &#8211; Armenian Genocide recognition is a realistic goal. It will happen, and when it does, there will still be violence, poverty and domestic abuse in our communities. I&#8217;d rather address those topics now, then wait for the genocide to be recognized so that we have something else to concern ourselves with. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s room for it all, I&#8217;m just saying we need to balance our priorities a little bit.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I respect your opinions, and am thankful that you chose to express them here. I welcome discussion  &#8211; that&#8217;s what this is all about anyway. I do hope you find something in this humble publication to persuade you to comment again, whether or not it is positive or negative. And if you ever feel strongly enough to want to write something, I would be more than happy to give you the space here to publish it.</p>
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		<title>By: Yeghig</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yeghig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The “subject” I was referring to is the importance of the Armenian Genocide, as is evident with your irresponsible claim &quot;These are our real problems... Not recognition of the Armenian Genocide...&quot;. I actually never expected to read such a comment in any Armenian related publication.

You honestly believe it is reasonable to throw away the immense efforts of the Armenian community outside of Armenia for decades to bring the government of Turkey to justice simply because some punk committed murder on the streets of LA?

Your concern about the misguided Armenian youth of LA is warranted, but I draw the line when you put into question the pursuit of recognition of the Armenian Genocide.  Since you say you are a journalist, you do understand that with a comment like the one you just made, you could be doing more harm than good especially against a young person who might have otherwise contributed positively in the future for the Armenian cause.

In truth the &quot;problems&quot; you speak of have been with us since the beginning of the Soviet Armenian Republic. It does not take a genius to see that Armenians of the Diaspora have a different set of values than the ones from the former Soviet Republic. While the Diaspora Armenians have their share of criminal activity, for the most part they stay out of trouble (or at least try).

I realize that with your article you might have been trying to make a point, and in so doing tried to point out that there are more &quot;realistic&quot; things we should be concerned about. However in the future I urge you to refrain from making such a comment as you did because achieving justice for the Armenian nation is every bit as realistic. My initial response might have been harsh but the point I wanted to make is we do not have to give up the pursuit of genocide recognition in order to solve our other problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The “subject” I was referring to is the importance of the Armenian Genocide, as is evident with your irresponsible claim &#8220;These are our real problems&#8230; Not recognition of the Armenian Genocide&#8230;&#8221;. I actually never expected to read such a comment in any Armenian related publication.</p>
<p>You honestly believe it is reasonable to throw away the immense efforts of the Armenian community outside of Armenia for decades to bring the government of Turkey to justice simply because some punk committed murder on the streets of LA?</p>
<p>Your concern about the misguided Armenian youth of LA is warranted, but I draw the line when you put into question the pursuit of recognition of the Armenian Genocide.  Since you say you are a journalist, you do understand that with a comment like the one you just made, you could be doing more harm than good especially against a young person who might have otherwise contributed positively in the future for the Armenian cause.</p>
<p>In truth the &#8220;problems&#8221; you speak of have been with us since the beginning of the Soviet Armenian Republic. It does not take a genius to see that Armenians of the Diaspora have a different set of values than the ones from the former Soviet Republic. While the Diaspora Armenians have their share of criminal activity, for the most part they stay out of trouble (or at least try).</p>
<p>I realize that with your article you might have been trying to make a point, and in so doing tried to point out that there are more &#8220;realistic&#8221; things we should be concerned about. However in the future I urge you to refrain from making such a comment as you did because achieving justice for the Armenian nation is every bit as realistic. My initial response might have been harsh but the point I wanted to make is we do not have to give up the pursuit of genocide recognition in order to solve our other problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Liana Aghajanian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liana Aghajanian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your comment Yeghig. 

If you had read the entire post, you would have realized that the majority of the people I referred to were not criminals. They were teenagers, mothers, fathers and daughters. 

I never alluded to Armenians being the exception. And I&#039;m not sure what this &quot;subject&quot; I know nothing about is well, actually about - are you referring to  genocide, murder or violence? If it&#039;s the latter two, then I&#039;m not sure I have any response for you at all. 

This was an opinion column to a growing trend - my job is not to take steps towards solutions, but raise awareness. I am writing as a journalist, not as an activist. If you decide to take steps towards a solution and make a difference instead of lecturing me about how I am or how I am not the future of &quot;our&quot; people, let me know so I can write about it. 

Until then, you can have the international recognition of the Armenian Genocide as your pursuit, and I can have the real problems of at least the Los Angeles Armenian community be mine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comment Yeghig. </p>
<p>If you had read the entire post, you would have realized that the majority of the people I referred to were not criminals. They were teenagers, mothers, fathers and daughters. </p>
<p>I never alluded to Armenians being the exception. And I&#8217;m not sure what this &#8220;subject&#8221; I know nothing about is well, actually about &#8211; are you referring to  genocide, murder or violence? If it&#8217;s the latter two, then I&#8217;m not sure I have any response for you at all. </p>
<p>This was an opinion column to a growing trend &#8211; my job is not to take steps towards solutions, but raise awareness. I am writing as a journalist, not as an activist. If you decide to take steps towards a solution and make a difference instead of lecturing me about how I am or how I am not the future of &#8220;our&#8221; people, let me know so I can write about it. </p>
<p>Until then, you can have the international recognition of the Armenian Genocide as your pursuit, and I can have the real problems of at least the Los Angeles Armenian community be mine.</p>
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